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Post by Meadowlark on Oct 12, 2011 9:26:39 GMT -8
Glad you enjoyed the chapter, in all honesty we'll do our best to catch names, but typos in names we're probably not as concerned about. *shrugs* I'll go track those ones down though.
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Post by victoriousscarf on Oct 12, 2011 13:25:18 GMT -8
Red Queen is on FF.Net and it's by... the marvelousmadamemim? Or some variation of that name. She also did the Dark Side of the Son series which follows the Red Queen and is quite... interesting.
And hey, we have enough stories coming. >.> So many stories...
Glad you like Jerrie and Cass there, they're quite interesting and a lot of fun.
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Post by littlesongbird on Oct 12, 2011 13:30:02 GMT -8
Thanks :D
well, you two are among my favorite Cats authors so of course I'd be eager to read your stuff. ((If you can find it, I definitely recommend reading Stephan Hanan's book "A Cats Diary" - it's a lot of behind the scenes of the original Broadway cast. It's also interesting to see how the cast blended.))
Cass was awesome - so perfectly crazy in that.
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Post by victoriousscarf on Oct 12, 2011 13:43:13 GMT -8
I've had Cass ((or a varriation of her)) show up completely crazy three times now... the first time was in that one story that shall not be posted with Misto as the actor. She was off her damn rocker in that one. But much needed for the plot to function. Good times.
I've seen that book before, but would have to buy it and am currently juggling other funds.
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Post by littlesongbird on Oct 12, 2011 18:13:08 GMT -8
I recommend it entirely - it's fascinating to see how things happened during the creation of the show. Stephan makes it entirely fascinating - and I picked up a few Yiddish words for Cohen to use ((I was a bit surprised to find how many batted for the other team while reading it. I think my jaw dropped when I read that the original Broadway Mr Mistoffelees had a boyfriend. Was not entirely expecting that))
And I believe there was a version where Cass was one of the twins in a different national production - so it wouldn't be surprising if she was batty because she was gifted.
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Post by victoriousscarf on Oct 12, 2011 18:35:26 GMT -8
That doesn't surprise me at all--I hang out with too many theatre majors. XD And I knew that about Timothy Scott right? That was the Mistoffelees for Broadway if I'm recalling this all correctly.
See, I never like making people crazy cos they're gifted, it's more that they were totally crazy anyway and happened to be gifted as well.
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Post by littlesongbird on Oct 12, 2011 18:41:14 GMT -8
Yes, it was Timothy Scott ((very depressing at the end when you find out that he died of AIDS)) He and Stephan had a cute byplay in the book - Tim says "I'm so lucky to have you." Since Stephan's been acting like a mentor to him. And to which Stephan mentally responds "You haven't had me"
And that makes absolute sense now that you painted it that way
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Post by victoriousscarf on Oct 12, 2011 18:47:15 GMT -8
I remembered that he died young, and I thought it might have been AIDS. But I couldn't remember for sure. I love his voice though...
Yeah. I mean, I screw over my magical characters, but I tend not to say they're mad cos of it. I don't know, that only works sometimes. Like Cassandra of Troy.
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Post by littlesongbird on Oct 12, 2011 19:00:00 GMT -8
And it wasn't just Timothy that died of it - René Clemente (Coricopat/Mungojerrie) and Reed Jones (Skimbleshanks) also passed on because of that disease - what a loss of talent. ((And agreed - I adored Timothy's voice. I'm also a fan of Jacob's voice))
And that makes sense ((I've only played a mad character once and that was the X-Men character and during the Dark Phoenix saga.)) And I felt sorry for Cassandra of Troy - blessed with suck ((able to predict the future accurately and have no-one believe you because a god cursed you because you spurned his bed, if my memory serves for the reason she spurned him))
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Post by littlesongbird on Oct 14, 2011 4:10:48 GMT -8
Happily reading "No Beauty Could Move Me"
-Jenny and Vic totally have their work cut out for them, don't they? Forgive the expression, but those two toms seem to pussyfoot around the issue. I don't know which tom I want to smack more, though, Cori seems to be the one winning that issue. Great Everlasting Cat, he really needs to think before he speaks when it comes to Misto - waxen fool indeed. Love the plan of locking Cori and Misto in the closet (which leads to the infamous joke ::snerk:: although, it would be true in this case) ((Quite curious as to who Vic's rogue would be - I'm personally leaning towards Mac, honestly))
-The bird feeding scene <3 One of my favorite scenes in the movie. ((Downside is now "Something there" is stuck in my head)) Tugger is downright adorkable right now. And I loved the exchange between them (the one with "Are we still talking about the birds?"), because you totally see that Tugger's willing to try to be the tom that Tumble wants. And loving the snowball fight - and the fact that it causes Tumble to step closer to Tugger afterwards.
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Post by Meadowlark on Oct 14, 2011 11:14:17 GMT -8
Cori really probably does deserve to be slapped for that line. But, as the Mac on this forum pointed out--Cruelty is one of his defense mechanisms. I figure it is probably Mac, but we don't go far enough after the breaking of the spell to find that out, so we'll leave that to the reader's determination ;)
Oh the bird-feeding scene. I do love that scene, and one of my favorite parts about this story is being able to include it along side the library scenes from the play. That exchange about "are we still talking about the birds" is one I loved writing but I facepalmed at myself when it was only then that the image of coaxing and waiting for the birds applied to the central relationship of the story as well (the original as well). Considering this has been my favorite Disney film for...thirteen to fifteen years it took a while to sink in.
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Post by littlesongbird on Oct 14, 2011 11:28:03 GMT -8
Oh, indeed, and it doesn't help that the "waxen fool" is a canonical phrase, Cogsworth uses it in the "Human Again" sequence ((noticed it when I looked up lyrics for Home - which has a rather confusing line. I can never tell if she's saying "Home's alike" or "Home's a lie")) And ah, true, I had forgotten that line of Mac's (and ironically, I only re-read that line a few days ago so it should have stuck in my head but didn't) in regards to Cori. ((You know, my first thought when Tugger was cursed was "Oh, Everlasting Cat, how pissed was Mac at Tugger and over what this time?"))
And now that you point it out, I will confess that I never viewed that scene with that thought in mind until just now. ((I know the snowball scene wasn't how the scene was supposed to end ::laughs:: One of the people working on that scene was sick and her co-worker snuck that scene in))
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Post by Meadowlark on Oct 14, 2011 11:47:57 GMT -8
It's "Home's a lie" in the official libretto I have.
*laughs* Well, it's a recognizable scene now, at least.
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Post by littlesongbird on Oct 14, 2011 11:55:01 GMT -8
::nods:: That's why it confuses me - she starts with the line with "My heart's far, far away" and then goes into "Home's a lie". It would have made more sense for it to have been "Home's alike" since she just said her home's far away only a few stanzas before. But I suppose it's a matter of what sounded better while singing.
Yeah, and the co-worker who snuck it in gave a "oh, my bad *snerk*" when called on it when interviewed for the book on the making of the movie.
(editted for having issues with how I worded things)
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Post by Meadowlark on Oct 14, 2011 12:31:12 GMT -8
Oh, I dunno. "A lie" makes sense because where she is will never be home. As such, the security and comfort of home itself is a lie because she can't experience it. That's how I've always taken it anyhow.
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